tgma
9 months ago
Imagine the bottom 14000 managers from Amazon on the loose getting jobs elsewhere and spreading the worst parts of its culture around in other companies. Effectively unleashes a biological virus at other FAANGs and smaller companies. Good job Amazon.
linotype
9 months ago
To the contrary, the ex-Amazon managers I’ve worked with explicitly tell me they avoid implementing ideas from Amazon in terms of management.
39896880
9 months ago
Yes. Ex-Amazon here. The part where I horse-trade putting engineers on PIP so I can keep my UAR up -- I don't spread that to other companies because it's toxic as fuck and leads to my friends on H1Bs getting deported.
belter
9 months ago
Is it any worst than the ex Facebook and Google employees?
"Meta to Lay Off Another 10,000 Workers" - https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/14/technology/meta-facebook-...
"Google lays off hundreds of ‘Core’ employees" - https://www.cnbc.com/2024/05/01/google-cuts-hundreds-of-core...
tgma
9 months ago
Google and Facebook do not indoctrinate their managers with Amazon management policies.
phendrenad2
9 months ago
What makes you think they're really the bottom?
tgma
9 months ago
What makes you think otherwise, statistically?
phendrenad2
9 months ago
There isn't any reason to believe that companies can or even want to identify the lowest performers, especially when doing mass headcount reduction.
tgma
9 months ago
There isn't any reason to believe...
There's no reason to believe the sky is blue.
...even want to identify...
Short of cuts of an entire division, sounds like fairy tales. Now, they might want to claim they have or have not done so; that's a different issue.
phendrenad2
9 months ago
What are you even talking about?
tgma
9 months ago
I am simply suggesting your assertion is self-evidently false.
phendrenad2
9 months ago
By that logic, so is yours. We should talk to the World's Records people to see if we set a record for biggest waste of time.
tgma
9 months ago
Perhaps you should. It's obvious that all companies at very least desire to know who is the high performer and who is not. To deny that for a trillion dollar successful company is just ridiculous.
phendrenad2
9 months ago
Well, I wish for a lot of things, doesn't mean I get them.
tgma
9 months ago
Well, this is what you stated previously: "there isn't any reason to believe that companies can or even <<<<want>>>> to identify the lowest performers."
And yes, there is at least some evidence to believe they do that identification somewhat successfully: their business is working.
phendrenad2
9 months ago
Yes when I go to the store, I hope to find a million dollar gemstone in my loaf of bread. But is that evidence that my trip to the store was meaningfully motivated by this?
Anyway, I've made my point every way possible now, it's time to leave it and let those who understand, understand.