The box problem that baffled the boffins

11 pointsposted a year ago
by sorokod

13 Comments

Mattasher

a year ago

The intuition here that helped me understand this is that, if you know the search strategy of another player in advance, your best best is to "front run" where they will look as much as possible. So in the ideal case, look in the very next box they are going to look in each round. This guarantees that unless they guess right on the first round, you will get to the gift first.

The rows and columns thing is just a less perfect, but still useful, way for Andrew to front run Barbara's choices more often than the reverse happens.

wodenokoto

a year ago

It’s good intuition and explanation. I hadn’t heard of the problem before and looked at your comment before the article and the problem seemed trivial.

Andrew will open boxes in second and third row before the other player, so in the case of the illustration he will open 2/3rds of the boxes first. If the columns are longer than the rows, Andrew would start to lose.

CamperBob2

a year ago

One of those rare cases where Gemini Advanced outsmarts o1-preview. Gemini understood the importance of wasted turns when one player opens a box already checked by the other, and understood that this effect would penalize Barbara more than Andrew.

But of course these models are just stochastic parrots locked in a Chinese room. They don't "understand" anything, so never mind, nothing to see here.

geocrasher

a year ago

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porphyra

a year ago

British people like to use "boffin" for smart person, expert, scientist, etc. Indeed a funny-sounding word.

smegsicle

a year ago

dreadful tinny sort of word

DougN7

a year ago

I’m with you 100%. Odd sounding word.

nkurz

a year ago

It's not the oddness that's the issue for me. The problem is that I read it as mocking and condescending. Do British readers see it otherwise?

DougN7

a year ago

It sounds like something out of Harry Potter to me.

jemmyw

a year ago

I'm from the UK and I hate it too

slater

a year ago

It's a normal word in British English.