Clever, Brave, Persistent

25 pointsposted 13 hours ago
by 1penny42cents

9 Comments

bentocorp

7 hours ago

To be successful you don't really need to be clever and you don't need to be brave.

You need to get lucky, and if that doesn't work, then yes persistence is the next most important thing – keep trying until you do get lucky.

1penny42cents

40 minutes ago

My favorite aphorism about luck is that you can’t win the lottery if you don’t buy a ticket.

After becoming adults, luck rarely falls into our laps. We have to make decisions that make us lucky.

Through that lens, bravery is the will to buy a ticket. Many people don’t. Cleverness is the quality of the ticket, since they have different probabilities of success. And persistence is the decision to keep playing the game, even after you’ve lost every other.

So I think the three qualities are aligned with the view that success is just another word for luck.

disambiguation

12 hours ago

Maybe. I've found the type of parents and upbringing you had to be more predictive of life outcomes than any personality or virtue assessment.

1penny42cents

37 minutes ago

Doesn’t your upbringing essentially manifest itself into your personality and virtues?

bbor

12 hours ago

  I wonder: is there anything more predictive of success than being clever, brave, and persistent?
Yes: wealth. That’s just an empirical fact, even if it’s an uncomfortable one that doesn’t help with individual ambition. If you think it’s tough for a poor malnourished kid with a single parent and bad schools to become a successful entrepreneur in America, you should see how tough it is for a kid born into a poor malnourished nation.

I also don’t buy the skill-will distinction at all, especially since they eventually say matters of will can be “practiced more intentionally”. The bones are there, but the details are kinda arbitrarily determined by ideological bias IMO. I think the author would love modern psychology lit on “Executive Functioning”, has a lot to say about how often a typical human is able to choose to will something!

Good article otherwise. Provocatively written, and refreshingly concise - def made me think. Also, obviously, inspiring!

1penny42cents

22 minutes ago

I definitely agree with the idea that we choose to will something! I tried to get that across in the essay, but maybe not as well as I could have.

What I meant between skill and will is that a skill is multivariate, whereas will is more unidimensional: you choose to do something or not.

That unidimensionality levels the playing field a lot. Let’s say someone is struggling to communicate well. They might need to learn and practice having an audible voice, avoiding verbal tickets, and having an understandable line of thought. If someone is struggling to be brave, they just need to practice going for what they believe to be right.

That’s not to say that there’s nothing which increases the probability that one may be brave, but I believe it does ultimately come down to that next decision. You may be more brave by having a better track record of bravery, but it can be washed away with a single cowardly decision. The playing field is much more level.

Regarding wealth, it’s a good point. Perhaps I should have clarified that “success” is relative. Success for someone born into poverty is different than someone born into royalty. I’m focused on the post-adulthood qualities we should focus on to maximize our personally determinable chances of success.

What do you think?

rich_sasha

11 hours ago

I'd add two more:

1. Luck. Plenty of lucky successful people out there. Not to say only luck gets you there, or that luck alone is always enough, but it makes a massive difference.

2. Lack of understanding of risk. Probably not an overall good thing, but a common thing among successful people (IME). Quite often the backstory involves some hideously crazy risks the person took at some point that paid off, but the cost of failure would have been unbearable.

Modified3019

9 hours ago

And to that last point, we don't hear about everyone who took the same risks and failed miserably.

stonethrowaway

6 hours ago

Trigger/need-snipe warning: the intro line is pure bait.