Same.

Maybe he's a bad person, but I would prefer if police and justice would handle this in private. If justice is not good enough, then make noise about laws and justice itself so it's changed, but I really dislike this private type of justice. Morally, I see no difference between this and hiring someone to sabotage him financially or physically.

If the problem is here about the PTSD, then I feel like dissociating themselves from the person and getting therapy should be the correct avenues to seek. This feels like the Nirvana baby from the Nevermind cover that had tattoos about the album cover, but was alleging trauma after 30+ years.

And I say this as someone who actually has trauma caused by family members, but in no way I seek public revenge. Sure in private I am the fucking devil, but people have also asked me to participate in dragging their name through the mud and just considering it already makes me feel like shit.

What's the point of all his self improvement / stoic whatever he's doing if he remains a terrible person to the ones closest to him? That's why it's relevant.

True. I think extreme circumstances might also lead to extreme motivation (obsession) and possibly achievements, skill or knowledge. Whether self-inflicted or caused by surroundings.

This case clearly the iceman is at the center of it all and the article was a tough read to me. With the grinding downwards spiral so clearly summed up in all the events I'm sure the interviewed people are now seeing all the red flags in hindsight.

I seriously do not believe you can separate the two with Hof. It is one thing to have an idea, but a con man will convince people his idea is right regardless of the evidence. Con men are usually abusers because they cannot keep up the con in their private life and con men want control over everything else.

And it is possible the Hof is suffering from a mood disorder as well: "Wim Hof’s first relevant experiences with the cold goes back to when he was 17: he felt a sudden urge to jump into the freezing cold water of the Beatrixpark canal."

All he is talking about is self flagellation to get over emotional pain, which is disturbing to me at least.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY58hSc_OJI

If you actually read the article, the legal courts already decided he was guilty of domestic abuse quite a few years ago.

If you sell yourself as a public character, then I think it’s fair to put that image on trial

> ‘In every relationship people use terms of abuse for each other,’ says Hof in an email. ‘I don’t remember this one.’

Besides the rightly pointed out conviction and numerous third party sources quoted by the article, this quote by the man himself

> ‘In every relationship people use terms of abuse for each other,’ says Hof in an email. ‘I don’t remember this one.’

Tells it all.

> Hof appeared on Dutch TV yesterday

Link?

He was already convicted of abuse in the Dutch courts years ago.

Surely it is appropriate for you to speculate about that.

Original was too long, had to trim a few words.

The original title is “The outside world knows Wim Hof as the eccentric Iceman. His family suffered domestic violence”

It's not the original title