3 hours ago
> Pods, logs, shells, YAMLs, all in one integrated interface
Has anyone tried Kubed?
Personally I have very good experience with k9s which seems to do the same, and a bit more.
an hour ago
k9s is easily my favourite k8s util
2 hours ago
This is very cool. But now instead of emacs make it Vi ;-)
update: I am very sorry for this silly post. I love you all whether you use vi or emacs.
2 hours ago
I've used emacs for ten years and vim for twenty. You know something I've noticed? vim users always show up in emacs spaces to poke fun at emacs users, for some reason. But the reverse was never true anecdotally, when I used vim only.
I use emacs because people in #vim on freenode were mean to me ten years ago for having an interest in Lisp, and told me to just use emacs if I was interested in that..
ok I said. #emacs treated me respectfully. ten years later, emacs has a lively community. vim has some forks.
I wonder why this is. Just something to think about.
2 hours ago
emacs has a vi implementation, you just turn on evil mode.
I don't know why this is so hard for vimmers to understand. evil mode will work with this.
I'm only half joking. The holy war between vim and emacs is like a bunch of machinists arguing over whether they prefer a lathe, or an entire machine shop that also includes a lathe if you want it.
an hour ago
> The holy war between vim and emacs is like a bunch of machinists arguing over whether they prefer a lathe, or an entire machine shop that also includes a lathe if you want it.
IMHO not really a fair comparison. There are signifcant differences in the feel and the workflow between using vim and using emacs in evil mode. Other people have preferences that differ from yours. I have many years experience using both vim and emacs (in evil-mode), and I see both sides. Don't get me wrong, emacs in evil mode is great, and I would not want to be without it, but it does not 100% reproduce the workflow of logging in to a terminal and editing text there in vim.
The differences are significant. I'm not saying the experience in emacs is bad, it's just different. If you already have, say, 10 years of muscle memory built up from using vim in a terminal, it will take a fair amount of adjustment to move to an emacs/evil-mode way of doing things.
I personally see no reason that I have to pick one or the other, and at present I spend a lot of time in both editors. I realize that would drive some people crazy, but I'm OK with my preferences being a little unusual.
2 hours ago
For the same reason vimmers despise IDEs: we don’t need it. We just need a tool to edit text and the rest we can do with other Unix tools. ;-)
an hour ago
OK, so back to the original point of the thread: where is the vim implementation of something like kubed?
There isn't one, because vim isn't a general-purpose application development platform, but emacs is.
If people don't want to access general-purpose applications from within their text editor, that is fine, but then why complain on threads about new emacs packages for people who do?
2 hours ago
At this point, why not use nano, or simply echo your code into text files? You don't need to see your code while writing it when you have cat and less.
2 hours ago
so just open vim when you don't need the rest? that's what I do. they're just tools. you can use both of them as appropriate.
but also the grand parent I was replying to wants to control kubernetes from vim.
so do you want to control kubernetes from vim, or do you dislike IDEs? you can't have both a minimal editor and an editor that does everything all in one program
just install evil mode in emacs and leave vim installed and use both and you can have your cake and eat it too! sometimes I think programmers just don't want to be happy