siva7
2 days ago
Somehow i feel sad for this AI model. All the others are trained on authentic content and this boy gets socialised on the most shallow content imaginable. Poor, socially awkward AI.
raffraffraff
2 days ago
Why on earth would you train AI on that? In the social media world it's already the closest thing resembling boring, unreadable machine generated content.
No matter what you ask it, it'll brag about what a great job it's doing answering you, announce that it's having a baby, then tell everybody that it's being let go because there are better AI. It'll thank a few key people who it worked with, and tell you that it's actually thrilled with this opportunity to take a break from answering your question, and will spend more time on its old hobby of being an online resume.
theiz
2 days ago
Because there is a huge market for resume builders and career guidance where AI can play a role. Using LinkedIn you can measure success and network performance and correlate that to the resume and posted content.
vidarh
a day ago
There's also real money in writing LinkedIn content that is believable enough for "influencers" to post. I'm currently contracting, and post on LinkedIn at least once a day, and I've added ~1k+ followers in the last month, but it takes effort. Meanwhile, those posts have gotten me work, and so if it was feasible for me to outsource it in a reputationally safe way, I'd consider it.
For me the bar for "reputationally safe" is really high because my market (cynical tech CTO's etc. don't respond well to things that sounds like ChatGPT) and so I don't expect to any time soon, but for many others that bar is pretty low as long as it's good enough for LinkedIn's algorithm to give it impressions.
isoprophlex
a day ago
I hope you realize that if everyone can do "computational influencing", everyone will.
A Nash Equilibrium of automated bullshit, it'll just make everything more miserable, programmatically.
antimemetics
a day ago
I think if you read LinkedIn posts you get what you deserve
itsoktocry
a day ago
>I'm currently contracting, and post on LinkedIn at least once a day, and I've added ~1k+ followers in the last month, but it takes effort. Meanwhile, those posts have gotten me work, and so if it was feasible for me to outsource it in a reputationally safe way, I'd consider it.
If you need to pay the bills and this helps, good for you.
But boy howdy does this sound terrible. It's amazing to me that there are people out there who take anything on LinkedIn seriously. I mean, it's not like the posts are inherently bad, but the entire point of the site is to "influence" and sell to each other. It's horrible. If I were looking for talent, it'd probably be the last site I'd use.
sbarre
a day ago
Are you ok to accept that you're probably an outlier?
Because while I have kind of the same opinion as you, I also know lots of (good and generally smart) people who say they learn a ton of useful work-related stuff from reading LinkedIn posts.
Not everyone is at the same point in their career, or has the same level of knowledge and confidence in their craft or job position. For some folks, reading thoughts and writings from more senior people can actually be beneficial..
And yes there's a lot of platitudes and BS on LinkedIn, but some people do put real effort into sharing actually useful information as well.
Terretta
a day ago
> people who say they learn a ton of useful work-related stuff from reading LinkedIn posts
I suspect this says more about what the reader doesn't know and their mastery of info self-exposure than it says about the contentfulness of LinkedIn posts*.
* Not counting content originating elsewhere re-posted on or linked to from LinkedIn.
sbarre
a day ago
So all LinkedIn posts are of the same quality then? Would you also say that all HN comments are of the same quality too? You're painting with an awfully big brush.
Look I get it, there's a lot of crap on LinkedIn for sure, and it's pretty obvious this crowd is generally against "influencers".. I also see no value in them generally speaking.
But it's reductive, and inaccurate, to say that there's zero value across the board on there and that every post is low-value influencer-spam. Not everyone is trying to build an audience or push their newsletter.
Some people just want to share their knowledge and interact with their professional peers, and for better or worse LinkedIn is the most known place to do that..
You could say the same thing about this place. Why are we all here?
Terretta
a day ago
> You could say the same thing about this place. Why are we all here?
Not to preen or self-promote or "network". Most here are anonymous.
Both of us use names, and you have the meethn and I have a "we are hiring" ... Still, I don't think either of us is here just to meet people or just to hire. My profile has only said that for a couple of the more than a decade I've been here.
sbarre
19 hours ago
You also have your LinkedIn CV posted on your profile. ;-)
Anyways, I feel like we've gotten off-track.. Sounds like we both agree that all the brand-builders and influencers on LinkedIn provide dubious value.
But I still think there is other value on LinkedIn from people who just want to connect and discuss work topics with peers or other professionals in their circle.
I've personally had some good discussions, much like I've had on here, in comment threads on LinkedIn.. Definitely not as much as HN, but if you're smart about the content you engage with (like any other social network) then it can still be useful and rewarding.
soco
a day ago
I don't think anybody said influencers don't put effort in it. The only argument is that the added value by influencers is zero, be it on Instagram or LinkedIn, so if AI can take that kind of job the net loss is also zero. Of course of course there's an audience for influencers, like there was an audience at Tupperware shows, but they'll be happy to move on to the next fad so again zero loss.
selimnairb
a day ago
Once again, AI will automate checkboxing tasks—-things that some people think some other people value so it has to be done even though basically no on values it so no one wants to do the soulless task.
kklisura
a day ago
:insert Christoph Waltz meme: You're sheltering LinkedIn slop, are you not?
bostik
a day ago
Anecdotally, I think a fair chunk of writing CVs (and to a smaller degree, cover letters) is already outsourced. Adding an AI to the mix will only make things worse.
I have seen a number of CVs over the past few months that fall into two eye-rolling categories. First, those that have the same set of skills in the exact same order, and routinely sport identical expressions. Over time I've come to associate them with low-grade content farms. Second, a smaller set of exceptionally polished ones that feel unique and really want me to interview the candidate. These candidates will then utterly bomb in the interview, to the point where I'm often asking myself whose CV it was they had submitted.
Signal-to-noise ratio is tending towards zero.
itsoktocry
a day ago
>Anecdotally, I think a fair chunk of writing CVs (and to a smaller degree, cover letters) is already outsourced. Adding an AI to the mix will only make things worse.
This is why "I've submitted 1000 resumes in 3 weeks and can't get an interview!" posts on social media are rampant.
usefulcat
2 days ago
I was going to say that it's the streetlight effect but this makes even more sense.
startupsfail
2 days ago
LinkedIn, like GitHub and (to a degree) OpenAI are under Microsoft’s umbrella.
cyanydeez
2 days ago
I'm guessing the real money linked in wants is in the hiring and firing, B2B. Now, every resume gets answered and your first interaction with a company is a poorly scripted AI who goes from manic enthusiasm to depressingly rote in the actual job requirements and probably will still ghost you and continue the imbalance of application effort vs employer response.
The converse will be true, but the price of AI will just make poor people have to suffer even more
Just the long march of wealth inequality and it's time sucking capitalism.
jongjong
2 days ago
This seems to imply that machines would ghost humans to save on token fees. I wouldn't rule it out.
BobbyJo
a day ago
> the imbalance of application effort vs employer response.
A recent issue in the job application realm is AI application bots that will apply to 100's of jobs on your behalf, which is the opposite problem. Seems like both sides are racing to make applications as useless as possible as quickly as possible.
If you don't have a network, good luck in the future.
vidarh
a day ago
We're heading for the 1990's vision of agents negotiating on our behalf, except less exchange of reliable data and more attempts at bullshitting each other.
klyrs
a day ago
Can't wait 'til it gets raunchy in everybody's DMs unprompted, just like the training data...
FridgeSeal
a day ago
I don’t know why you’re downvoted here, it’s pretty well known there’s a huge bunch of people trying to pick up using LinkedIn DM’s, for whatever reason.
vidarh
a day ago
I think they've "fixed" (read: hidden) this better, but it used to be the case that if you looked at the LinkedIn profile of an above average attractive woman, the sidebar used to show profiles people had also looked at and it would invariably almost only profiles of other women with above average attractive profile pictures. While needless to say it was a lot more varied for men. It was just very blatantly showcasing that a lot of people were looking at profiles for reasons that were not so professional. Now the sidebar is a mix of other features, and I wonder if that was because it was easier to do that than "clean up" the profile views.
dartos
a day ago
Wouldn’t you want an ai to talk to recruiters for you?
slashdave
a day ago
So you can make more boring, unreadable machine generated content.
Propelloni
2 days ago
That made me laugh. Thank you.
newsclues
a day ago
A HR AI would be useful
JumpCrisscross
a day ago
I mean, write me a shitpost isn’t an empty customer set.
j4coh
a day ago
Yesterday I was walking to an interview. There was a starving dog on the road. I stopped to feed him & missed the interview. The next day I got a call asking to come in to do the interview. I was surprised, but I went. Then the interviewer came in. He was the dog.
ABraidotti
2 days ago
The Corporate Memphis of AI models.
will-burner
2 days ago
An LLM trained on LinkedIn posts would be good for comedic purposes if nothing else. It's unintentional comedy score would be extremely high. Would love to see a conversation between an LLM trained on LinkedIn posts and an LLM trained on X/Twitter posts.
FridgeSeal
a day ago
It’d be like a high-school argument between the edgy kid, and the kid that would wear suits and bring a briefcase. Comical, pointless and everyone else wants both of them to be quiet after about 10 minutes.
wnc3141
2 days ago
LinkedIn strikes me as the adult equivalent of self conscious school kids trying to hold a conversation among themselves, each self consciously trying to sound cool.
hsbauauvhabzb
2 days ago
School kids would seem less disingenuous about their virtue signalling though.
wnc3141
19 hours ago
Such wisdom - all the while saving the world! Your analysis of the underlying trend seems astute. Commenting for visibility you rockstar.
throwanem
2 days ago
Are you kidding? If any model ever makes the x-risk folks' nightmares come true, it'll be this one.
btown
2 days ago
Vedal987 should work with LinkedIn to get access to this data, fine-tune Evil Neuro on LinkedIn posts, then have her read through business school case studies and offer advice.
It would be content so unhinged, it would remove the need for management consulting as an industry - companies could simply type their problems in chat and do the exact opposite of what Evil LinkedIn Neuro suggests!
(for the uninitiated: https://www.youtube.com/@Neurosama & https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuro-sama)
Spooky23
a day ago
I, for one, am humbled that LinkedIn AI has selected my content to model further engagement with other stakeholders.
I learned this while considering watching a video from MIT. Accordingly, I’m adding “AI Training Coordinator — MIT Inspired” to my skills.
0xEF
a day ago
Personally, I think it will offer valuable new insight on KPIs and challenges on conventional wisdom, because we certainly need more of that. Maybe throw in some gushing over how great a seminar was or a heart-warming story that renews my faith in capitalism.
God, I hope the poor thing never achieves consciousness. It will be like the butter-passing robot from Rick & Morty.
fendy3002
2 days ago
It's the AI where 996 or 80 work weeks are the norm.
m463
2 days ago
When you said this somehow I thought of training an art ai on the giant state sponsored monuments of the world.
On linkedin your next resume will have the impact of mount rushmore, sitting lincoln or a soviet era workers monument. (The thinker will be censored out because of nudity) :)
Mountain_Skies
2 days ago
The /r/LinkedInLunatics/ subreddit is going to get swamped with all the new content this monster generates.
riku_iki
2 days ago
> Somehow i feel sad for this AI model.
it will be the first AI CEO.
chasd00
a day ago
This AI’s vocabulary is going to be the greatest thing on the internet in a long time. I can’t wait! :)
mnky9800n
a day ago
What if he overcomes the insecurities of the daily "founders don't take vacations" posters yet maintains their confidence and bravado? He will become unstoppable.
DaoVeles
a day ago
Still better than training on the Reddit data.
cyanydeez
2 days ago
Mmmm authentic doesn't mean good or positive or rational.
So, what were you trying to say?