Counter-Strike 2 gaming using Neuralink is 'insane'

29 pointsposted 2 years ago
by gmays
(tomshardware.com)

22 Comments

Veedrac

2 years ago

I think the most straightforward illustration of Neuralink's demonstrated capabilities is Webgrid. Noland, the first participant who has had Neuralink for a while (though has reduced signal because of thread retractions) scored 9.51 BPS. Try it and see how well you do!

https://neuralink.com/webgrid/

pona-a

2 years ago

> Your peak score: 8.01 BPS

Well, I'd say permanent brain damage from scaring alone wouldn't quite be worth an extra 1 click per second...

What it's showing really is a very different problem; the mouse is a fair show and inefficient input method. While some use-cases, like 2d/2d panning, drawing, etc., benefit from a pointing device, most of the typical UI can best be done by a keyboard. I doubt any brain computer interface can achieve 100+ WPM on arbitrary inputs with a low error rate.

BoredPositron

2 years ago

Insane as in it works but the movement in the video is not anything like the instant pro gamer Elon made it out to be. It's amazing but it's diminished by over promising again. sic

shaftway

2 years ago

We're talking about somebody who hasn't had the means to be a "gamer". No experience with a first person 3d shooter with traditional controls. He plays better than my 12 year old would; no running along looking at the sky or the ground, no struggling with going around obstacles. I think that's pretty insane.

I also think it's insane having Elon's m̶o̶n̶k̶e̶y̶s̶ surgeons poking at your brain, but maybe that's just me.

idiocrat

2 years ago

As with usual exponential growth -- do not blink.

The exponential growth is that you see nothing for long time, until it is too late.

Once you blinked you will find the HN site is full of articles about the minimal-invasive brain microsurgery startups getting funded billions of dollars. And that we are in the midst of another tech bubble.

BriggyDwiggs42

2 years ago

Minimally invasive is the biggest issue. It’s gonna involve removing a portion of your skull for the forseeable future, and even if it doesn’t it’ll be brain surgery. I think ai-driven surgery-free bci would be more consumer viable, but it’s not clear whether such bci can be done effectively with electrodes far as im aware. I think it’ll be a medical product and an extreme niche of high-performance gaming or something, if anything non-medical exists at all, for a long time.

khafra

2 years ago

Here's an article from a few years ago, reviewing "over 50 years of brain-computer interface history": https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7824107/

I'm not ready to declare exponential growth in anything but hype levels, yet; I don't see any great leaps forward concerning the fundamental problems faced by the field.

michaelteter

2 years ago

Relax. We have at least two more years of AI-everything hype and startups to endure before we can change bandwagons.

kadoban

2 years ago

There seems to be no particular reason to expect exponential growth here to me. Can you explain why you'd expect that?

rasz

2 years ago

Like self-driving? :)

kombookcha

2 years ago

Crazy how all Teslas have been self-driving robotaxis earning passive income for their owners since 2016. Truly this man will never do a flim flam. ;)

Sabinus

2 years ago

>Once you blinked you will find the HN site is full of articles about the minimal-invasive brain microsurgery startups getting funded billions of dollars. And that we are in the midst of another tech bubble.

I think Neuralink is going to be more like SpaceX, not like Bitcoin.

user

2 years ago

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bdjsiqoocwk

2 years ago

Enron Musk lying again to line his pockets.

pushupentry1219

2 years ago

Works every time. People here in particular lap it up.

jeffreyames

2 years ago

I imagine for a quadriplegic moving around a 3D world in first person by thinking must feel great. I wonder if the thought that triggers the movement feels more like thinking about walking or thinking about pressing a button on a controller.

BriggyDwiggs42

2 years ago

When you play a game for a long enough time you completely lose awareness of the buttons unless you’re doing something really difficult. I bet it’s more like that.

olivierduval

2 years ago

It's really impressive !!!!

BTW, the video show him playing with and against BOTS (that are notoriously weak in CS2), not with/against other human players (where he would stand no chance - and no fun - even against beginning players)

dusted

2 years ago

This is pretty damn amazing.. Throw on a headset and find a nice walking simulator. It'd be really cool for a lot of people in different situations.

maxglute

2 years ago

Pretty cool, I just want to manipulate media controls with my brain when I'm half asleep in bed someday, without sticking wires into my brain.

Log_out_

2 years ago

How did they solve the implant neural scaring tissue issue ? Last time i looked at there patents there was nothing there regarding that. So for now congratulations to alex to a 6 month one time gamepad with brain damage.

https://insights.greyb.com/neuralink-patents/ https://founderslegal.com/interesting-patents-a-leap-into-th...

Conventional wires and biopolymers is just not good enough for this to go above guinea pig tech.

6 globally and nothing revolutionary regarding the scaring problem. can read all the data of the brain is cool, but nobody will integrate that,if all you get is a useless socket on your skull.