What alternatives do you recommend?

Thank you! we initially focused on physical products, but adding features for digital products should be even easier. Could you point me to your ideal solution or describe how it would work in a perfect scenario? Something we could use as an inspiration for both: digital and lead magnet downloads

Yes! One-page checkout has been, and continues to be, one of our top priorities. There are still a few minor improvements to be made, but I’m really happy with how smooth the experience is rihgt now.

Have you tried it with Stripe Link? This reduces the entire checkout process to just four (4) clicks; no need to fill out forms as long as your details have been saved from a previous purchase elsewhere on the Internet.

Thank you for the kind words!

> WooCommerce should be filling the role of viable self host alternative to Shopify, but it falls short.

WooCommerce itself is mostly fine as a backend, but the themes for it (including the built-in/free ones) are mostly awful. Ugly layouts, huge bloated payloads, and checkouts that look so unprofessional most people will think they're fraudulent.

There are good themes out there but you'll be paying decent money for them.

The little link to show full cart when adding something is another nice touch.

This feature isn’t ready yet, but it’s something we’re actively working on. To have shipping right away, it could be outsourced to a third party, and some of our partners are developing such functionality this way.

In the long term, we aim to make it tightly integrated with Stripe, making Stripe the core infrastructure for your e-commerce needs.

There are several third parties to get this data.

I prefer Shippo, know the founders, and integrated inside Weebly (now Square).

We started by storing data like stock as product metadata directly in Stripe. Plus, we’re developing a thin layer to manage the sync between individual stores and Stripe (e.g. atomicity)

This solution is not (yet) ideal, but works well for most small stores and we have some ideas how to improve it further - composability/headless can be overwhelming in many such scenarios.

Thanks! Happy you liked it!

I can confirm the bug - thanks for the heads-up! We recently did a few iterations on that part, and it looks like something slipped through the cracks...

Thanks!

We're experimenting quite a bit at the moment - starting with Umami, but we’re also considering developing a custom solution (analytics subset) specifically for e-commerce

Coupons are on our roadmap, and adding them should be relatively straightforward. Would you be interested in beta testing it with us? :)

A Dockerfile has been proposed by the community. I’ll review it today: https://github.com/yournextstore/yournextstore/pull/22/files

Of course! It’s open source for a reason: feel free to fork and disable prefetching. Although, in my opinion, that’s not the best idea if you have your users’ experience in mind.

It seems like anything you can configure with next.js applies here. And TIL'd there isn't a way to globally disable prefetching[0] with it. You can disable it per individual link, or write & use a custom link component.

[0] https://github.com/vercel/next.js/discussions/24437

We've updated pnpm to 9.10.0, and it's alright now. Thanks for pointing this out to us!

Sorry about that! I'd need to learn a bit more about your setup.

For starters could you remove the `packageManager` from the `package.json` entirely and try again?

if you're available, we can do a quick video call and I'll see exactly what happens on your side as I cannot reproduce it atm

Thanks for the kind words! We read and analyse all feedback, and we’re grateful for it.

Using CSV is an interesting idea! I havent looked at your code yet - does it automaticaly sync when something changes in the file? Do you have an admin panel for end users? In YNS, we provide a dashboard that simplifies managing products and orders (though it’s not yet open-sourced)

That's an interesting insight, and I'd like to learn more about it.

Off the top of my head, have you considered using the Stripe API directly in those other places? i.e. Stripe as the source of truth, with data being fetched to those other places as REST calls for example?

I imagine that linking those "other" orders with products might be a bit tricky, though

Thanks for the kind words!

We use Stripe’s "Product Catalogue", a relatively old but, to our surprise, somewhat lesser-known feature. By leveraging metadata, you can represent most e-commerce concepts, and we’re actively working on expanding those capabilities even further, beyond products and orders.

And yes, caching is the key ingredient in YNS. The combination of RSC and Next.js Cache works really well - different React.js components can independtly fetch remote data and Next.js gives you great flexibility in managing that.

It is practical, you’ll just have to share the changes you’ve made under the same open source license. Alternatively, you can reach out to us to obtain a commercial license that’s not open.

Third party can sell paid themes as long as they’re open source – similar to how the Wordpress ecosystem works. All plugins and themes are open source, including the paid ones.

This is the state of things for now, but it could change in the future. We’re open to your feedback!

> I once built a website where I stored everything in Stripe

How did you manage your dev environment in a setup like that? I guess you'll have one env for production, one for staging/testing and then one that all devs share?

Stripe’s tax features have worked well for our use cases so far, and we also have experience with Avalara from previous projects. Would you be open to connecting over a video call to discuss your specific needs? I think it might be easier that way as it's a broad topic :)

That sounds like a great idea!

Actually, my fiancée sells cosplay props on Etsy, and she was looking for a simpler solution - that’s partly how the idea for YourNextStore began.

Here's a prop she made for me :) https://www.instagram.com/p/C2fz0O8quhe/?img_index=1

Do you have a store with a smaller product catalog that we could use as a test bed for the migration?

Not right now, unfortunately! For now, there’s just a flat shipping rate. We’re working on it!

We're planning to stick around a bit longer :)

Is there anything I can do to help or convince you to give us a try?

Congrats! Looking forward to your project! Let me know what's missing and what's not ideal and generally your feedback. You can contact me by email once you start building.

Google Pay is available as part of Stripe offering!

Thanks! Could you describe your use case so that I could better understand how to implement this?

Thanks!

Yes, we’re working on this - we plan to start by enabling stablecoin-only payments. Would that work for your use case?

we’re fully focused on Stripe and don’t plan to support other providers. This is because e-commerce is more than just a payment gateway. Our goal is to integrate various Stripe features into a comprehensive and convenient package for online commerce, while using the synergies between different Stripe products.

That said, the project is open-source, so the community could add support for something like Razorpay.

When you mention Stripe isn’t available everywhere, which country would you like to see added?

Yes, we've had similar experiences and plan to address them to some extent. In certain cases, like with Facebook, it might not be straightforward, but we want to provide built-in alternatives e.g. analytics specifically tailored for e-commerce that cover ~80% of what you need, with the rest being a trade-off.

I also think Facebook, Google, Hotjar et al. will eventually get better with those scripts.

This really isn't a problem a web platform can solve for itself.

Just use server side tag manager.

Can you share more details about the problem you’re describing? I’ve never experienced any broken links after redeploying apps. Do you mean it’s vercel specific? How to reproduce?

Thank you for the kind words! :)